Jesus is the sin sacrifice? How?

Published on August 23, 2006 By Adventure-Dude In Religion

Hey JU theology buffs,

I've been thinking and studying about the very question. Before ya'll start spouting off NT writings about how HE is the sin sacrifice let me clarify what I am looking for here. We know that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Passover Lamb and the Sin Sacrifice. When I look at Passover from the OT and The Passover Seder I see how he fits right in there on a LITERAL level. He rode into Jerusalem when they were bringing the lambs in for Passover. When you look at these events I don't question how he is the Passover lamb. But Passover is about redemption. Redemption, which will be fulfilled upon HIS return. Now what I am looking for is how he fits in as the LITERAL sin sacrifice. I am not looking for theological points from NT i am looking at the sin sacrifices of Torah (first 5) and how he fits in there. I am familiar with Isaiah 53 but I am looking more towards the Torah. If you use reference from the prophets please follow through and point it towards Torah and the sacrifices mentioned there.

A lil more about the point. See yes he was crucified but so were many others. He was falsely accused but so were many others. I believe there is a physical and spiritual aspect of scriptures and so I am looking at the physical side. How does Yeshua fit into the sin sacrifices?

Comments

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Aug 23, 2006

I think John said it best. He was like an OT prophet who walked across the pages into the NT. I love what he said, "Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world."

He was linking Christ to the OT Passover Lamb, Exodus 12 and prophecy of the Messiah, Isa 53:7. No longer is the sacrifice for Israel alone but includes the whole world, Isa 53:4-12 and 1 John 2:2. Redemption was done at the cross but he will not claim what is his until he's ready and the time is right. Redemption is all about freeing us from sin and that part was done at the crross.

Yes, he was crucified as were others, but the others were not perfect and unblemished nor were they God in the flesh. We all deserve to die according to the rules of God. His son did not deserve to die. That's what made the whole thing satisfactory to God. A perfect sin sacrifice was given once and for all unlike the OT blood and goats that had to be repeated year after year.

Also back to the Torah we see the first mention this would happen in Gen 3:15.

"I will put enmity between you and the seed of woman and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel."

Notice he said "seed of the woman?" That is strange because seed comes from man not woman. This is referring to the virgin birth but mentioned way back in the garden. Also this has to do with the fact that Christ will deal a death blow to Satan's head at the cross while Satan will bruise Christ's heel (not a deathblow.) He will be wounded only in the fact he has the power to rise again.

This fits perfectly with Isa 53:5 which states "He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities....and with his stripes we are healed."

Adventure-Dude

on Aug 23, 2006

I think John said it best. He was like an OT prophet who walked across the pages into the NT. I love what he said, "Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world."

Yes I agree John did say this. The Passover lamb is NOT about sin sacrifice. There are sin sacrifices that took place on a daily basis as well as at Yom Kippur or the day of atonement. Which sacrifice of the lamb sacrifices was he? Then what about the goat, bull, red heifer sacrifices? KFC, thanks but I am looking for more of a finite answer. Me thinks Mark's record of the time of day plays a very important detail to what I am looking for.

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Aug 23, 2006

Me thinks Mark's record of the time of day plays a very important detail to what I am looking for.

hmmmmm so what is this then a test? Ok, I'll take another stab at it.

There are sin sacrifices that took place on a daily basis as well as at Yom Kippur or the day of atonement. Which sacrifice of the lamb sacrifices was he?

Then what about the goat, bull, red heifer sacrifices

He's a picture of all of them just like he's a picture of Prophet, Priest and King. It's all about HIM.

Notice the red heifer (only found in Num 19:2) is for the ritual of cleansing. This served as a purification for sin. Compare this with Heb 9:13..."For if the blood of bulls and of goats and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Chirst.....?"

Also note that the heifer was to be burned outside the camp and compare again to Hebrews 13:11-13

For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach

Adventure-Dude

on Aug 23, 2006

KFC I agree with all that you have said but.... I am still looking for HOW he fits in to the sacrifices. You say that he is ALL sacrifices which then would do away with the HIGH HOLY DAYS which in scripture disagrees for instance Zech 14. Again why was he crucified on the 3rd our of the day and not the 2nd or the 4th? What happened at the 3rd hour of the day in the Temple? After he died the veil was torn so I see a DIRECT tie to the temple and sacrifices. Let me offer my thoughts. See there is a sacrifice of two lambs every day. One in the morning before ANY other sacrifice (this is found in Talmud and in Torah). The other was sacrificed at the end of the day to end all sacrifices. Boker and Erev in Hebrew are references to what we call civil twilight in the morning and evening respectively. These are the times at which the sacrifices took place (two lambs). Since we know Passover is a spring feast that was based upon the head of barley and new moon ( I can give references if neccessary). The sun rise was around 6:30ish (this is a mean of possible times). That puts Yeshua's nailing at 9:30ish. The first lamb would have been sacrificed and I wonder if shortly after it was his nailing. The two lambs are no where referenced as sin sacrifices (that I could find)and so I suspect it was shortly after and the Messiah bled through out the day and couldn't die until the last lamb was brought in to end the sin sacrifices for the day and there for Yeshua being the perfect sacrfice replaced all sin sacrifices? Maybe that helps.

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Aug 24, 2006

We see from scripture that he was sentenced at 6 am. We also see that he was put on the cross at 9 am and it was at 3 pm that it says "he gave up his spirit." It was traditionally at 3 pm when the Passover Lambs would be sacrificed. Moses was told to do so when?

"But at the place which the Lord your God shall choose to place his name in, there you shall sacrifice the passover at evening, at the going down of the sun...." Deut 16:6

Jesus died at the very second as the first lambs were being sacrificed in the nearby temple. Before he died the whole place turned dark, this was a picture of judgment. Today we are judged according to what we do with Christ.

So I don't think the time of the crucifixion means much (at least to my knowledge)but only the time of death that was significant.

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